So I'm sure most of you PUAs and Aspiring PUAs have encountered the night where the girl tells you she will hook up but she will not have sex and I of course have encountered this issue countless times. So yesterday I was thinking back through my experiences and I realized that the difference between the girls I kissed/got oral from and the chicks I banged was our connection (except for one pretty slutty girl in there). Maybe I don't still feel this way but the night of the banging I usually felt extremely connected to these girls. SO here comes Fiery's opinion of how to break LMR: Its broken by a strong emotion connection.
Building a strong emotional connection:
So how can I get me that??? Talk a lot before you bang move on from basic topics, talk about bigger concepts. Here's an example:
instead of::
you: what year do you graduate college?
her: im a junior so next year.
you: oh cool
try::
you: what year do you graduate college?
her: im a junior so next year.
you: wow...its scary isnt it that we're moving into the real world... (use we always)
her: ya i know it really is. I'm actually so nervous.
you: you got any plans for after college
her: well I'm into political science so maybe law but I'm not sure I'll probably take a few years off first. how about you?
you: I'm into science. Why did you decide on poly sci?
her: I don't know...
you: everybody does poly sci...your such a conformist (cocky funny neg)
her: at least im not a science nerd...
you: im not a nerd i party harder than you. But I don't want to devalue poly sci to each their own haha. (double threaded conversation)
her: ya I doubt you do. and at least I know news.
you: i know news...bla bla bla etc etc etc
Note these two people seem like best friends by now and this second you is getting it in tonight. (also scattered a couple other game plays in the interaction) One party knows age one knows personality. Can you not begin to feel the personality of the characters in the second post, just because the characters are meeting each other and not just receiving meaningless information as most chodes will do in an interaction.
Hope this helps.
-Stay Fiery
Wednesday, August 10, 2011
Monday, August 1, 2011
Bad Date
So last night I went out with a girl whose number I had gotten at a party while drunken whose face I didn't remember. Now I hate counting numbers but I am currently at 49 and I sort of want the fiftieth girl to be special. I mean when I marry a girl someday I would like to say I married you and you were my fiftieth and I knew the fiftieth would be special rather than you were the 71st or something. Not that I want to marry the fiftieth!! I plan to be in the game much longer than that. Anyway, I went out with her and she was cute but not dime status, cool but not intriguing, and had swag turned only halfway on.
Anyway in the middle of the date I made up an excuse and stood her up. Fiery=douchebag. Going home I felt really happy: something about maintaining my self respect and sort of saving myself made me feel really high value and I sort of guess it was. I wasn't another AFC just tryna smash, I was serious about who I was planning to hook up with. I was the prize. Anyway I'll keep the forum posted on the fiftieth girl (chances are it will be a rando that i meet drunk :-/). Just wanted to post this...not my most insightful post!
Anyway in the middle of the date I made up an excuse and stood her up. Fiery=douchebag. Going home I felt really happy: something about maintaining my self respect and sort of saving myself made me feel really high value and I sort of guess it was. I wasn't another AFC just tryna smash, I was serious about who I was planning to hook up with. I was the prize. Anyway I'll keep the forum posted on the fiftieth girl (chances are it will be a rando that i meet drunk :-/). Just wanted to post this...not my most insightful post!
Sunday, July 31, 2011
Drive
Quick post on drive:
I was recently talking to my friend about where drive comes from. We were discussing why we got into the game, why we got into shape, why we are so competitive.
We realized that these qualities came from past shit we dealt with; for me a rough relationship, and the feeling of worthlessness that came because i was a late bloomer to pickup. For him a fucked up family life. We became tough and through these pains and became serious about being the best at whatever we did.
Now I am not saying you need to be fucked up to be good at pickup. What I am saying is if you're depressed because you get no girls, if you just broke up with the girl you loved, if you're family is going through tough times, the cloud has a silver lining: these events might be what push you over the edge and make you great at pickup. Just dont go overboard and get depressed, manorexic, whatever... I don't know it just bothers me when people are like 'im bad at pickup because i had a bad father figure' because 'i went to a really strict high school' because 'im just shy'. Get angry! that shit is not your fault, but how you deal with it is your choice. You can wallow or you can get up and do something.
Stay fiery
Get laid, get paid.
I was recently talking to my friend about where drive comes from. We were discussing why we got into the game, why we got into shape, why we are so competitive.
We realized that these qualities came from past shit we dealt with; for me a rough relationship, and the feeling of worthlessness that came because i was a late bloomer to pickup. For him a fucked up family life. We became tough and through these pains and became serious about being the best at whatever we did.
Now I am not saying you need to be fucked up to be good at pickup. What I am saying is if you're depressed because you get no girls, if you just broke up with the girl you loved, if you're family is going through tough times, the cloud has a silver lining: these events might be what push you over the edge and make you great at pickup. Just dont go overboard and get depressed, manorexic, whatever... I don't know it just bothers me when people are like 'im bad at pickup because i had a bad father figure' because 'i went to a really strict high school' because 'im just shy'. Get angry! that shit is not your fault, but how you deal with it is your choice. You can wallow or you can get up and do something.
Stay fiery
Get laid, get paid.
Saturday, October 16, 2010
For more advice....
Check out chief's forum: http://chiefpua.blogspot.com/2009/05/ghosts-of-girlfriends-past.html.
The American Grinding Dancefloor Pull
So often youre on the dancefloor trying to close with a chick. The first skill you will need is an absolute lack of fear of rejection and good rejection body language because rejection is inevitable in this arena of game. So then go grind with some girls making sure to make friendly eye contact with their friends because their friends are who will decide whether you are worth dancing with. After about 4 minutes lock hand with them if they kinda squeeze your hand then spin them around like some sort of dance move then begin front-grinding. If this all goes well you can move in for the kiss, you do have 3 IOIs: hand squeeze, initial acceptance of grinding, and acceptance of being spun around. Make sure to dance with them for a little while first and to possibly make a little small talk i.e. get their names. Also make sure you are good at grinding, google the dancing style if you need some pointers. I did this and it helped my dance floor game significantly.
Hope this helps,
-fiery
Hope this helps,
-fiery
Sunday, October 10, 2010
Stormy's advice
Here's a link to Stormy's advice. I recommend reading this article, it was what made my game initially take off. http://www.pick-up-artist-forum.com/frame-control-defining-reality-and-being-high-value-vt34530.html
Inner Game and How it Helps
If I asked you how to move your mouth to speak certain words it would be tough for you to figure it out, but when you speak you will move your mouth through acrobatics at high speed without even thinking about it. The same concept applies to inner game: when you have good inner game all the body language and whatnot comes naturally (to most of us!) and can be executed smoothly without any thought.
So what is good inner game?
First of all get to know yourself and what works for you. Does talking to girls make you nervous? How do you deal with nervousness emotionally? What do you think about in every stage of the hookup? Do you get anxious at certain points?
Next take the advice of PUAs and learn to set your mindset to a good place in order to attract chicks. I recommend either the gunswitch frame or a frame I will call the Stormy frame. In the gunswitch frame, you just constantly think sexually about the girl and sexual body language and speech will hopefully follow. The Stormy frame entails a good vibey feeling of happiness and fun. If you are tough enough to hold these frames your game will probably be solid.
FRAME STRENGTH:
Now here's where its really hard, and heres where knowing yourself really helps. In set you may forget your frame, get thrown off by an offensive or suggestive concept or be tired/not in the mood to get into the right mindset. Frame strength is your ability to stay in correct frame despite whatever is going on. All the good PUAs I have met have appeared to have excellent frame strength so its something worth working on.
THE GOLDEN RULE:
This rule is really from Stormy but I have modified it slightly. The golden rule of pickup is that the world conforms to your worldview. If you believe you will succeed you will. If you think you're being phony everybody else will too.
The Silver Rule:
The Silver Rule is also from Stormy and its that everybody in an interaction feels whatever the person with the strongest frame feels. In other words, they feel what you do. So you wanna girl to be attracted to you? Be attracted to her.
Inner Game of Attraction:
So why do you go for girls? Is it for self-confidence, ego, or actual attraction. Actual attraction is definitely the best option. Why? Because if you feel actual attraction she will too. Develop your sexuality, don't go for the girl that all your friends think is hot, go for the girl that attracts you for whatever reason.
Rejection:
Rejection is both one of the scariest parts of pickup and the easiest way to lose a frame. We've all been rejected at like a high-school dance and not been able to go for another girl, or gotten blown out in set and had mad trouble opening the next set. You have to realize that rejection is a natural teaching tool, and a bar that separates the men from the boys. Every time I get rejected I say thank you because I believe that each rejection makes me far better at pickup. The dudes who can keep opening despite rejection are the best PUAs, and obviously also have the strongest frames (more reason to work on frame strength).
Drive:
Just like that tough test, or the last rep of a good workout Pickup takes drive to start and continue. Consider using pump-up music or taking some time to get focused before pickup. Personally, I initially started pickup to get over the worthlessness I felt because I had gotten none for years. Nowadays whenever I'm like "maybe ill just chill tonight" or "Ill open the next set" I think back to how low I felt back before I got into the game and then I can easily go for that next set. You wanna be good at this shit???? It takes drive like anything else.
Hope I helped you all
Good luck
-Fiery
So what is good inner game?
First of all get to know yourself and what works for you. Does talking to girls make you nervous? How do you deal with nervousness emotionally? What do you think about in every stage of the hookup? Do you get anxious at certain points?
Next take the advice of PUAs and learn to set your mindset to a good place in order to attract chicks. I recommend either the gunswitch frame or a frame I will call the Stormy frame. In the gunswitch frame, you just constantly think sexually about the girl and sexual body language and speech will hopefully follow. The Stormy frame entails a good vibey feeling of happiness and fun. If you are tough enough to hold these frames your game will probably be solid.
FRAME STRENGTH:
Now here's where its really hard, and heres where knowing yourself really helps. In set you may forget your frame, get thrown off by an offensive or suggestive concept or be tired/not in the mood to get into the right mindset. Frame strength is your ability to stay in correct frame despite whatever is going on. All the good PUAs I have met have appeared to have excellent frame strength so its something worth working on.
THE GOLDEN RULE:
This rule is really from Stormy but I have modified it slightly. The golden rule of pickup is that the world conforms to your worldview. If you believe you will succeed you will. If you think you're being phony everybody else will too.
The Silver Rule:
The Silver Rule is also from Stormy and its that everybody in an interaction feels whatever the person with the strongest frame feels. In other words, they feel what you do. So you wanna girl to be attracted to you? Be attracted to her.
Inner Game of Attraction:
So why do you go for girls? Is it for self-confidence, ego, or actual attraction. Actual attraction is definitely the best option. Why? Because if you feel actual attraction she will too. Develop your sexuality, don't go for the girl that all your friends think is hot, go for the girl that attracts you for whatever reason.
Rejection:
Rejection is both one of the scariest parts of pickup and the easiest way to lose a frame. We've all been rejected at like a high-school dance and not been able to go for another girl, or gotten blown out in set and had mad trouble opening the next set. You have to realize that rejection is a natural teaching tool, and a bar that separates the men from the boys. Every time I get rejected I say thank you because I believe that each rejection makes me far better at pickup. The dudes who can keep opening despite rejection are the best PUAs, and obviously also have the strongest frames (more reason to work on frame strength).
Drive:
Just like that tough test, or the last rep of a good workout Pickup takes drive to start and continue. Consider using pump-up music or taking some time to get focused before pickup. Personally, I initially started pickup to get over the worthlessness I felt because I had gotten none for years. Nowadays whenever I'm like "maybe ill just chill tonight" or "Ill open the next set" I think back to how low I felt back before I got into the game and then I can easily go for that next set. You wanna be good at this shit???? It takes drive like anything else.
Hope I helped you all
Good luck
-Fiery
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