Some days i'll walk or sit for hours and just think about the world and what not. A couple days ago I came to a few new conclusions about life and game that i want to share with all of you. Btw State in pick-up is defined as how one is feeling. So people like Gunwitch and 60 years of challenge tell us to "match the states" of the girls we want and then kinda pull them towards a sexual state by gradually changing our state (my interpretation of their methods).
So after thinking about this stuff I was hooking up with a girl, and after I got her off I looked at her facial expression and noticed that it wasn't a smile or anything but rather a kind of peaceful happiness. So one of my realizations at that point was that there are so many more emotions than just happiness sadness anger etc. I realized too that there is more than one type of attraction: compare that feeling of attraction you feel when first seeing a hot girl in the club, to when you are making out with her, to when you are cuddling with her after sex. All very different right?
So what that made me realize is that if state matching is actually important we have to become more familiar with the many states human can be in. I also think its interesting that the English language doesnt have a word for so many of them like what words describe the different happinesses that you feel when you ace a test, get revenge on some ass hole, or get told that you are a nice person? We are forced instead to say "the happiness when..." when describing really specific states.
Now I'm going to attempt to give descriptions of the frames I've think girls get in as a pickup progresses so that you guys can try to to match then pull them.
During Open: Girl typically seems to be feeling a kinda of teasing suspicious happiness.
During Midgame: Girl feels drunken happiness similar to what they would feel at a party.
During Close: Girl feels confident happiness.
During Make-Out: Girl feels happiness but it is marked by a lot of purpose and it is quite, not a smiley type of happiness.
During sex: Girl feels confident joy similar to what you feel when you are winning a sports game, not a smilely type of joy a more internal victory.
After sex: Girl feels the joy of relaxation similar to what you feel when you rest after a hard workout.
Now if we want to use the Gunwitch and 60 years techniques (google them by the way if you are not particularly familiar), which seem to be becoming the state of the art of pickup, we all should become very familiar with girls states so that we can match them and pull them towards the "sexual state" that Gunwitch talks about.
Continuing this rambling philosophy I want to talk about remembering emotions. I have found that many accurate emotions are hard to remember. Like its hard to remember exactly how you felt during many periods in your life. However, if we are going to get good at frame switching and matching we have to learn to be very good at remembering and reprojecting past emotions. I have been practicing this for a while and have found that often trying to remember emotions strengthens my emotional memory like a muscle. Its also a good skill to have since who doesn't want to remember exactly how they feel during great moments like the sexing ^-^.
Sorry for this rambling, hope i said at least something insightful.
Fiery
Monday, October 4, 2010
Saturday, October 2, 2010
An Amazing Method
This is probably the best piece of game I have read in a long while, thought I should post it for any serious gamers out there. http://www.pick-up-artist-forum.com/60s-anti-manifesto-must-read-vt72952.html. Its by 60 years of challenge who is quite an awsome guru.
-Fiery
-Fiery
Thursday, September 30, 2010
Bait and Hide
Here's a strategy I just Field Tested last night that I really like. Imma call it Bait and Hide. its for use once you have isolated chick, or during midgame. So what you do is say midconversation, oh that reminds me of the craziest story. Chick says whats the story. You say oh sorry tts pretty personal. She will prod. Eventually say once I know you better I'll tell you the story. This system creates a serious DHV and is an ideal excuse to say we should hang again and then go for a number close (thats how i used it last night). More posts to come, but I just had to post that cuz its my newest technique.
Monday, September 27, 2010
Opening Stories
First of all I encourage anybody else to give opening stories, like first open as a pua, some epic successes/failures. They can be both helpful and entertaining.
My First Open as a PUA:
I was at a beach and walked up to some girls and asked about where parties were that night and turned out getting into a fivish minute conversation not a particularly great showing of game and I didn't push for a number.
My First Number as a PUA:
Walked up to girls on the beach (same day) and asked them how they avoided the sand from blowing into their faces since it was windy. Got into approximately 20 minute convo about jersey shore, my homewtown, life and shit. Turned out awkwardly asking for a number just straight up and i got it. Success.
I'm kinda lazy right now ill post more later haha.
Next few posts will be on midgame get excited thats the meat of game in general.
My First Open as a PUA:
I was at a beach and walked up to some girls and asked about where parties were that night and turned out getting into a fivish minute conversation not a particularly great showing of game and I didn't push for a number.
My First Number as a PUA:
Walked up to girls on the beach (same day) and asked them how they avoided the sand from blowing into their faces since it was windy. Got into approximately 20 minute convo about jersey shore, my homewtown, life and shit. Turned out awkwardly asking for a number just straight up and i got it. Success.
I'm kinda lazy right now ill post more later haha.
Next few posts will be on midgame get excited thats the meat of game in general.
Thursday, September 23, 2010
Opening
OPENING
Ready for a dissertation on opening? here we go. Imma structure this in chronological order of when you do things.
The first thing to consider when opening is the situation. Are you in a mall? a classroom? a party? the street? Consider the question, how often are people opened here? note that you may have to observe for a little while to know the answer. Typically places where girls are constantly opened will require more game, while a little bit of comfort and rapport is all that is necessary for places where girls are rarely opened.
When you start seeing girls, observe them: what are they wearing? Do they appear stuck up? Confident? Shy? Is there anything distinctive that they are wearing that you can comment on. Notice their friends: is the girl the leader of the group a follower, do they appear to be best friends? Just getting to know each other? whatever.
Now just start walking towards them with a couple of openers in your head. Things to note here: make the walk look accidental--do not beeline towards them. Turn to them at the last second. Do not make eye contact until you see them. You are trying to give the vibe that this is a no effort common type of interaction for you and staring/beelining etc. will not achieve this.
Next with open body language i.e. arms wide, shoulders open, and a friendly but not overbearing smile, deliver your opener slowly happily and in carefree way.
WHAT TO SAY:
So you got the body language/mindset now but what do you say? My opinion is that any opener that starts conversation is a perfect opener. You don't build attraction when opening, you do it during midgame.
So try these:
The Fiery Opener (as always)
At college: are you guys freshman? Are any of you in X class? Did you guys go to the cafeteria tonight?/what are they serving? (A standard) Can you give me directions to X.
Or more direct at college: What party you guys going to tonight? You guys wanna come to my pregame twill be a rage? I'm trying to meet new ppl what are your names etc?
On the street:
Can I get directions? Ask about an article of clothing you have: do you think this necklace is sexy? Make up lies: Did you see that crazy guy back there?
Be douchy: Hey gimme a hug I just got a raise at work/i just dumped my bitch girlfriend/etc. Use other people to open them: Say can you tell my friend to get over losing his girlfriend? Say My bud really needs a hug right now btw what are your names.
If you guys want more openers just send me a message.
FIRST GOAL OF THE INTERACTION::::
There are many closes in a pickup: the first close is the name close. Follow basically every one of these openers with 'btw what is your name", or even better "I'm Fiery btw". Using your pickup name can be good too since it starts conversation :).
My Next Post Will be On Some of my Opening Stories.
Ready for a dissertation on opening? here we go. Imma structure this in chronological order of when you do things.
The first thing to consider when opening is the situation. Are you in a mall? a classroom? a party? the street? Consider the question, how often are people opened here? note that you may have to observe for a little while to know the answer. Typically places where girls are constantly opened will require more game, while a little bit of comfort and rapport is all that is necessary for places where girls are rarely opened.
When you start seeing girls, observe them: what are they wearing? Do they appear stuck up? Confident? Shy? Is there anything distinctive that they are wearing that you can comment on. Notice their friends: is the girl the leader of the group a follower, do they appear to be best friends? Just getting to know each other? whatever.
Now just start walking towards them with a couple of openers in your head. Things to note here: make the walk look accidental--do not beeline towards them. Turn to them at the last second. Do not make eye contact until you see them. You are trying to give the vibe that this is a no effort common type of interaction for you and staring/beelining etc. will not achieve this.
Next with open body language i.e. arms wide, shoulders open, and a friendly but not overbearing smile, deliver your opener slowly happily and in carefree way.
WHAT TO SAY:
So you got the body language/mindset now but what do you say? My opinion is that any opener that starts conversation is a perfect opener. You don't build attraction when opening, you do it during midgame.
So try these:
The Fiery Opener (as always)
At college: are you guys freshman? Are any of you in X class? Did you guys go to the cafeteria tonight?/what are they serving? (A standard) Can you give me directions to X.
Or more direct at college: What party you guys going to tonight? You guys wanna come to my pregame twill be a rage? I'm trying to meet new ppl what are your names etc?
On the street:
Can I get directions? Ask about an article of clothing you have: do you think this necklace is sexy? Make up lies: Did you see that crazy guy back there?
Be douchy: Hey gimme a hug I just got a raise at work/i just dumped my bitch girlfriend/etc. Use other people to open them: Say can you tell my friend to get over losing his girlfriend? Say My bud really needs a hug right now btw what are your names.
If you guys want more openers just send me a message.
FIRST GOAL OF THE INTERACTION::::
There are many closes in a pickup: the first close is the name close. Follow basically every one of these openers with 'btw what is your name", or even better "I'm Fiery btw". Using your pickup name can be good too since it starts conversation :).
My Next Post Will be On Some of my Opening Stories.
Monday, July 26, 2010
The Intro
THIS IS MY INTRO, SCROLL DOWN IF YOU'RE JUST LOOKING FOR STRAIGHT GAME
Hello world, I am Fiery, a pickup artist who decided that my knowledge and creativity was so valuable that I had to share it with the rest of the world. So about me: I started as the most A of the AFCs; I had minimal contact with women, an extremely late first kiss, and little hope of improving. I'm not gonna lie, life was seriously depressing. I remember staying up late at night considering my life and wondering if there was something seriously wrong with me.
UNTIL!!!
My friend decided one day to take me with him on a double date with girls he had just met (Ya I mouched off him). I didn't realize that this meeting would become one of the most important times of my life. After a night of a lot of enjoyment but me getting none :(, he told me that he had picked up those girls at the beach. Then he told me that he thought I had a shitload of potential, handed me "the game", and told me that he would teach me to be a legend, and we would be the best wingcrew the world had ever seen (cool huh?).
SO....Fastforward about two years later, hundreds of awestriking succcesses, and cringable failures later and you have me Fiery, a Pickup artist, who wants nothing more than to continue enjoying life and impart some of my knowledge to the rest of the world.
My Basic Game Philosophy
I consider there to be 7 sections of Game and they should be learned in the order presented:
inner game, opening, midgame, number closing, sealing a day 2, kiss/f closing, then postgaming
(ie making sure they dont stalk you (or you on them!) and dealing with your own emotions).
Notice I didn't say building an attractive lifestyle? I left this section out because I believe that solid inner game will force you to workout, not become a fatty, get addicted to drugs, or fail to succeed financially.
On Routines
There is a lot of talk about "natural game" versus "routine based game". I use neither. WHAT!!! I use what I call creative game. WTF is that??? I use routines but I write my own routines. This covers the problems with both halves of game: people hate on routine game because they think that it means they cant be themselves, and they hate on natural game because for an afc thinking of fun conversation topics can be next to impossible. With creative game I am myself, but I'm also prepared with things to say (sick right?).
An intro to Inner Game:
For your inner game to improve start by asking yourself a series of questions that you have to work through extremely honestly.
1st question (and one of the hardest):
why are you gaming?
Is it to get that turbo dime who has randomly brushed your arm 2.3 times in chemistry class? Is it to show that huge roidspawn from your childhood that you're better than you were then? Is it to run from all the pain of inadequacy you have felt during your life? Is it to cover some misanthropic emptiness chillin' deep in your soul? Is it so you can brag to your friends? Is it to build a relationship? Is it to find the friend you never had as a child? Is it so you can live out your scarface fantasy of being like mystery and style? Is it so you can do what I do and blog about your success with women? Or is it for joy of actually being intimate with women?
(I put the last one in bold because I think this reason is the best reason to be in this game)
Why i game: I'll be honest it is largely for my ego, slightly to impress my friends, slightly because its become a habit and addiction, slightly to cover up my youthful feeling of inadequacy, but mostly for the love of sexytime.
SEE THAT HONESTY!! Thats solid inner game, see if you can be that honest with yourself.
2nd Question::
How committed are you?
Are you content getting with that girl who has enlisted in your crew and hooking up with her for a while? Or will you not rest till you are the best pickup artist in the world?
I'm clearly pretty committed. If you are not, leave now, the following shit will only fuck with your mind.
I have a shitload more to say on inner game but for now this will do. If you want my favorite source on this topic its a pua named stormy link: (www.pick-up-artist-forum.com/frame-control-defining-reality-and-being-high-valuevt34530.html). Btw if you are reading this, you are the absolute man stormy, send me a message or something I would love to have you as a featured poster on this blog or something.
Opening:
Before you start opening, have solid inner game because it takes balls to just go up and talk to girls in random places.
There are many ways to open with girls: ask their opinions on your afc life, ask them for directions then go into some routines, show them a magic trick, buy them a drink, do something absurd etc. I have found that all of these really common pickup methods SUCK, they never seem to work for me.
ARE YOU READY FOR THE GREATEST INNOVATION EVER TO HIT PICKUP SINCE MYSTERY METHOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I call it the fiery opener. Its short, sweet, beautiful since it has my name in it, and currently about 90% effective!!!!!
I am actually seriously nervous about posting it because it is so brilliant that it could soon be used all over.
(Oh one thing before i say it....)
What I have found is that what is immensely effective is to make a girl unsure whether you are actually hitting on her until you number close her, i.e. plausible deniability. Thats really tough right...
OR IS IT!!!!!!!
Its possible with the fiery opener. At its current state, the opener requires that a friend is somewhere nearby.
Alright fuck you fiery whats the opener???
The opener is.....
Fiery: excuse me, could I ask you a favor?
Chick: sure i guess
Fiery: (theres variety here) alright so i'm in a competition with my friend, can u pretend im hitting on you for a little bit so that I can win?/ my friend says im shy with girls can you pretend i just came up to and just started talking you / my friend just bet me i wouldn't talk to you i'm not really in a mood to hit on girls but if you make it look like i'm hitting on you then ill give you half the money from the bet....etc,etc,etc.
Thats the fiery opener. You're welcome world.
Be Honest Thats the Best Opener You Have Ever Heard
As you can imagine, this opener easily gets you into midgame, and you can also easily hold plausible deniability all the way to number close as a pretense of the game.
Midgame:
Midgame is where you actually talk to the girl. Okay so you opened them, now prove that you are fun, confident, funny, interesting, and successful. So how do you do this...well thats quite a topic and this is only the intro so more on that later, but the basic idea is to have some interesting shit ready, to be solid at small talk and to have good body language/non-verbal communication.
Closing:
So now you talked this chick up for a while how do you close? Closing basically entails noticing the signs that you are ready to ask for number/facebook/kiss/instadate etc., then going for it in an interesting and non-needy non-intimidating way.
Getting a Day 2:
So you got her number now how do you get her to hang with you again? Again this is an intro and I am getting lazy but there are a number of little tricks to get this shit to happen. Also with kiss/closing, theres too much to say in this short intro.
Postgame:
Now after you have made out with/fooled around with/bumped uglies with the chick how do you ensure that you guys will still be on good terms, be in a relationship, or never have to talk again (fiery's way)...Thats what this topic deals with.
WELCOME TO MY FORUM, I will post regular articles on these topics and I hope anybody else out there with game, or questions will shoot me a question on my email or on the forum.
-Stay Fiery
Midgame is where you actually talk to the girl. Okay so you opened them, now prove that you are fun, confident, funny, interesting, and successful. So how do you do this...well thats quite a topic and this is only the intro so more on that later, but the basic idea is to have some interesting shit ready, to be solid at small talk and to have good body language/non-verbal communication.
Closing:
So now you talked this chick up for a while how do you close? Closing basically entails noticing the signs that you are ready to ask for number/facebook/kiss/instadate etc., then going for it in an interesting and non-needy non-intimidating way.
Getting a Day 2:
So you got her number now how do you get her to hang with you again? Again this is an intro and I am getting lazy but there are a number of little tricks to get this shit to happen. Also with kiss/closing, theres too much to say in this short intro.
Postgame:
Now after you have made out with/fooled around with/bumped uglies with the chick how do you ensure that you guys will still be on good terms, be in a relationship, or never have to talk again (fiery's way)...Thats what this topic deals with.
WELCOME TO MY FORUM, I will post regular articles on these topics and I hope anybody else out there with game, or questions will shoot me a question on my email or on the forum.
-Stay Fiery
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