Sunday, October 10, 2010
Stormy's advice
Here's a link to Stormy's advice. I recommend reading this article, it was what made my game initially take off. http://www.pick-up-artist-forum.com/frame-control-defining-reality-and-being-high-value-vt34530.html
Inner Game and How it Helps
If I asked you how to move your mouth to speak certain words it would be tough for you to figure it out, but when you speak you will move your mouth through acrobatics at high speed without even thinking about it. The same concept applies to inner game: when you have good inner game all the body language and whatnot comes naturally (to most of us!) and can be executed smoothly without any thought.
So what is good inner game?
First of all get to know yourself and what works for you. Does talking to girls make you nervous? How do you deal with nervousness emotionally? What do you think about in every stage of the hookup? Do you get anxious at certain points?
Next take the advice of PUAs and learn to set your mindset to a good place in order to attract chicks. I recommend either the gunswitch frame or a frame I will call the Stormy frame. In the gunswitch frame, you just constantly think sexually about the girl and sexual body language and speech will hopefully follow. The Stormy frame entails a good vibey feeling of happiness and fun. If you are tough enough to hold these frames your game will probably be solid.
FRAME STRENGTH:
Now here's where its really hard, and heres where knowing yourself really helps. In set you may forget your frame, get thrown off by an offensive or suggestive concept or be tired/not in the mood to get into the right mindset. Frame strength is your ability to stay in correct frame despite whatever is going on. All the good PUAs I have met have appeared to have excellent frame strength so its something worth working on.
THE GOLDEN RULE:
This rule is really from Stormy but I have modified it slightly. The golden rule of pickup is that the world conforms to your worldview. If you believe you will succeed you will. If you think you're being phony everybody else will too.
The Silver Rule:
The Silver Rule is also from Stormy and its that everybody in an interaction feels whatever the person with the strongest frame feels. In other words, they feel what you do. So you wanna girl to be attracted to you? Be attracted to her.
Inner Game of Attraction:
So why do you go for girls? Is it for self-confidence, ego, or actual attraction. Actual attraction is definitely the best option. Why? Because if you feel actual attraction she will too. Develop your sexuality, don't go for the girl that all your friends think is hot, go for the girl that attracts you for whatever reason.
Rejection:
Rejection is both one of the scariest parts of pickup and the easiest way to lose a frame. We've all been rejected at like a high-school dance and not been able to go for another girl, or gotten blown out in set and had mad trouble opening the next set. You have to realize that rejection is a natural teaching tool, and a bar that separates the men from the boys. Every time I get rejected I say thank you because I believe that each rejection makes me far better at pickup. The dudes who can keep opening despite rejection are the best PUAs, and obviously also have the strongest frames (more reason to work on frame strength).
Drive:
Just like that tough test, or the last rep of a good workout Pickup takes drive to start and continue. Consider using pump-up music or taking some time to get focused before pickup. Personally, I initially started pickup to get over the worthlessness I felt because I had gotten none for years. Nowadays whenever I'm like "maybe ill just chill tonight" or "Ill open the next set" I think back to how low I felt back before I got into the game and then I can easily go for that next set. You wanna be good at this shit???? It takes drive like anything else.
Hope I helped you all
Good luck
-Fiery
So what is good inner game?
First of all get to know yourself and what works for you. Does talking to girls make you nervous? How do you deal with nervousness emotionally? What do you think about in every stage of the hookup? Do you get anxious at certain points?
Next take the advice of PUAs and learn to set your mindset to a good place in order to attract chicks. I recommend either the gunswitch frame or a frame I will call the Stormy frame. In the gunswitch frame, you just constantly think sexually about the girl and sexual body language and speech will hopefully follow. The Stormy frame entails a good vibey feeling of happiness and fun. If you are tough enough to hold these frames your game will probably be solid.
FRAME STRENGTH:
Now here's where its really hard, and heres where knowing yourself really helps. In set you may forget your frame, get thrown off by an offensive or suggestive concept or be tired/not in the mood to get into the right mindset. Frame strength is your ability to stay in correct frame despite whatever is going on. All the good PUAs I have met have appeared to have excellent frame strength so its something worth working on.
THE GOLDEN RULE:
This rule is really from Stormy but I have modified it slightly. The golden rule of pickup is that the world conforms to your worldview. If you believe you will succeed you will. If you think you're being phony everybody else will too.
The Silver Rule:
The Silver Rule is also from Stormy and its that everybody in an interaction feels whatever the person with the strongest frame feels. In other words, they feel what you do. So you wanna girl to be attracted to you? Be attracted to her.
Inner Game of Attraction:
So why do you go for girls? Is it for self-confidence, ego, or actual attraction. Actual attraction is definitely the best option. Why? Because if you feel actual attraction she will too. Develop your sexuality, don't go for the girl that all your friends think is hot, go for the girl that attracts you for whatever reason.
Rejection:
Rejection is both one of the scariest parts of pickup and the easiest way to lose a frame. We've all been rejected at like a high-school dance and not been able to go for another girl, or gotten blown out in set and had mad trouble opening the next set. You have to realize that rejection is a natural teaching tool, and a bar that separates the men from the boys. Every time I get rejected I say thank you because I believe that each rejection makes me far better at pickup. The dudes who can keep opening despite rejection are the best PUAs, and obviously also have the strongest frames (more reason to work on frame strength).
Drive:
Just like that tough test, or the last rep of a good workout Pickup takes drive to start and continue. Consider using pump-up music or taking some time to get focused before pickup. Personally, I initially started pickup to get over the worthlessness I felt because I had gotten none for years. Nowadays whenever I'm like "maybe ill just chill tonight" or "Ill open the next set" I think back to how low I felt back before I got into the game and then I can easily go for that next set. You wanna be good at this shit???? It takes drive like anything else.
Hope I helped you all
Good luck
-Fiery
Monday, October 4, 2010
Fiery Emotions: My thoughts over the last few weeks
Some days i'll walk or sit for hours and just think about the world and what not. A couple days ago I came to a few new conclusions about life and game that i want to share with all of you. Btw State in pick-up is defined as how one is feeling. So people like Gunwitch and 60 years of challenge tell us to "match the states" of the girls we want and then kinda pull them towards a sexual state by gradually changing our state (my interpretation of their methods).
So after thinking about this stuff I was hooking up with a girl, and after I got her off I looked at her facial expression and noticed that it wasn't a smile or anything but rather a kind of peaceful happiness. So one of my realizations at that point was that there are so many more emotions than just happiness sadness anger etc. I realized too that there is more than one type of attraction: compare that feeling of attraction you feel when first seeing a hot girl in the club, to when you are making out with her, to when you are cuddling with her after sex. All very different right?
So what that made me realize is that if state matching is actually important we have to become more familiar with the many states human can be in. I also think its interesting that the English language doesnt have a word for so many of them like what words describe the different happinesses that you feel when you ace a test, get revenge on some ass hole, or get told that you are a nice person? We are forced instead to say "the happiness when..." when describing really specific states.
Now I'm going to attempt to give descriptions of the frames I've think girls get in as a pickup progresses so that you guys can try to to match then pull them.
During Open: Girl typically seems to be feeling a kinda of teasing suspicious happiness.
During Midgame: Girl feels drunken happiness similar to what they would feel at a party.
During Close: Girl feels confident happiness.
During Make-Out: Girl feels happiness but it is marked by a lot of purpose and it is quite, not a smiley type of happiness.
During sex: Girl feels confident joy similar to what you feel when you are winning a sports game, not a smilely type of joy a more internal victory.
After sex: Girl feels the joy of relaxation similar to what you feel when you rest after a hard workout.
Now if we want to use the Gunwitch and 60 years techniques (google them by the way if you are not particularly familiar), which seem to be becoming the state of the art of pickup, we all should become very familiar with girls states so that we can match them and pull them towards the "sexual state" that Gunwitch talks about.
Continuing this rambling philosophy I want to talk about remembering emotions. I have found that many accurate emotions are hard to remember. Like its hard to remember exactly how you felt during many periods in your life. However, if we are going to get good at frame switching and matching we have to learn to be very good at remembering and reprojecting past emotions. I have been practicing this for a while and have found that often trying to remember emotions strengthens my emotional memory like a muscle. Its also a good skill to have since who doesn't want to remember exactly how they feel during great moments like the sexing ^-^.
Sorry for this rambling, hope i said at least something insightful.
Fiery
So after thinking about this stuff I was hooking up with a girl, and after I got her off I looked at her facial expression and noticed that it wasn't a smile or anything but rather a kind of peaceful happiness. So one of my realizations at that point was that there are so many more emotions than just happiness sadness anger etc. I realized too that there is more than one type of attraction: compare that feeling of attraction you feel when first seeing a hot girl in the club, to when you are making out with her, to when you are cuddling with her after sex. All very different right?
So what that made me realize is that if state matching is actually important we have to become more familiar with the many states human can be in. I also think its interesting that the English language doesnt have a word for so many of them like what words describe the different happinesses that you feel when you ace a test, get revenge on some ass hole, or get told that you are a nice person? We are forced instead to say "the happiness when..." when describing really specific states.
Now I'm going to attempt to give descriptions of the frames I've think girls get in as a pickup progresses so that you guys can try to to match then pull them.
During Open: Girl typically seems to be feeling a kinda of teasing suspicious happiness.
During Midgame: Girl feels drunken happiness similar to what they would feel at a party.
During Close: Girl feels confident happiness.
During Make-Out: Girl feels happiness but it is marked by a lot of purpose and it is quite, not a smiley type of happiness.
During sex: Girl feels confident joy similar to what you feel when you are winning a sports game, not a smilely type of joy a more internal victory.
After sex: Girl feels the joy of relaxation similar to what you feel when you rest after a hard workout.
Now if we want to use the Gunwitch and 60 years techniques (google them by the way if you are not particularly familiar), which seem to be becoming the state of the art of pickup, we all should become very familiar with girls states so that we can match them and pull them towards the "sexual state" that Gunwitch talks about.
Continuing this rambling philosophy I want to talk about remembering emotions. I have found that many accurate emotions are hard to remember. Like its hard to remember exactly how you felt during many periods in your life. However, if we are going to get good at frame switching and matching we have to learn to be very good at remembering and reprojecting past emotions. I have been practicing this for a while and have found that often trying to remember emotions strengthens my emotional memory like a muscle. Its also a good skill to have since who doesn't want to remember exactly how they feel during great moments like the sexing ^-^.
Sorry for this rambling, hope i said at least something insightful.
Fiery
Saturday, October 2, 2010
An Amazing Method
This is probably the best piece of game I have read in a long while, thought I should post it for any serious gamers out there. http://www.pick-up-artist-forum.com/60s-anti-manifesto-must-read-vt72952.html. Its by 60 years of challenge who is quite an awsome guru.
-Fiery
-Fiery
Thursday, September 30, 2010
Bait and Hide
Here's a strategy I just Field Tested last night that I really like. Imma call it Bait and Hide. its for use once you have isolated chick, or during midgame. So what you do is say midconversation, oh that reminds me of the craziest story. Chick says whats the story. You say oh sorry tts pretty personal. She will prod. Eventually say once I know you better I'll tell you the story. This system creates a serious DHV and is an ideal excuse to say we should hang again and then go for a number close (thats how i used it last night). More posts to come, but I just had to post that cuz its my newest technique.
Monday, September 27, 2010
Opening Stories
First of all I encourage anybody else to give opening stories, like first open as a pua, some epic successes/failures. They can be both helpful and entertaining.
My First Open as a PUA:
I was at a beach and walked up to some girls and asked about where parties were that night and turned out getting into a fivish minute conversation not a particularly great showing of game and I didn't push for a number.
My First Number as a PUA:
Walked up to girls on the beach (same day) and asked them how they avoided the sand from blowing into their faces since it was windy. Got into approximately 20 minute convo about jersey shore, my homewtown, life and shit. Turned out awkwardly asking for a number just straight up and i got it. Success.
I'm kinda lazy right now ill post more later haha.
Next few posts will be on midgame get excited thats the meat of game in general.
My First Open as a PUA:
I was at a beach and walked up to some girls and asked about where parties were that night and turned out getting into a fivish minute conversation not a particularly great showing of game and I didn't push for a number.
My First Number as a PUA:
Walked up to girls on the beach (same day) and asked them how they avoided the sand from blowing into their faces since it was windy. Got into approximately 20 minute convo about jersey shore, my homewtown, life and shit. Turned out awkwardly asking for a number just straight up and i got it. Success.
I'm kinda lazy right now ill post more later haha.
Next few posts will be on midgame get excited thats the meat of game in general.
Thursday, September 23, 2010
Opening
OPENING
Ready for a dissertation on opening? here we go. Imma structure this in chronological order of when you do things.
The first thing to consider when opening is the situation. Are you in a mall? a classroom? a party? the street? Consider the question, how often are people opened here? note that you may have to observe for a little while to know the answer. Typically places where girls are constantly opened will require more game, while a little bit of comfort and rapport is all that is necessary for places where girls are rarely opened.
When you start seeing girls, observe them: what are they wearing? Do they appear stuck up? Confident? Shy? Is there anything distinctive that they are wearing that you can comment on. Notice their friends: is the girl the leader of the group a follower, do they appear to be best friends? Just getting to know each other? whatever.
Now just start walking towards them with a couple of openers in your head. Things to note here: make the walk look accidental--do not beeline towards them. Turn to them at the last second. Do not make eye contact until you see them. You are trying to give the vibe that this is a no effort common type of interaction for you and staring/beelining etc. will not achieve this.
Next with open body language i.e. arms wide, shoulders open, and a friendly but not overbearing smile, deliver your opener slowly happily and in carefree way.
WHAT TO SAY:
So you got the body language/mindset now but what do you say? My opinion is that any opener that starts conversation is a perfect opener. You don't build attraction when opening, you do it during midgame.
So try these:
The Fiery Opener (as always)
At college: are you guys freshman? Are any of you in X class? Did you guys go to the cafeteria tonight?/what are they serving? (A standard) Can you give me directions to X.
Or more direct at college: What party you guys going to tonight? You guys wanna come to my pregame twill be a rage? I'm trying to meet new ppl what are your names etc?
On the street:
Can I get directions? Ask about an article of clothing you have: do you think this necklace is sexy? Make up lies: Did you see that crazy guy back there?
Be douchy: Hey gimme a hug I just got a raise at work/i just dumped my bitch girlfriend/etc. Use other people to open them: Say can you tell my friend to get over losing his girlfriend? Say My bud really needs a hug right now btw what are your names.
If you guys want more openers just send me a message.
FIRST GOAL OF THE INTERACTION::::
There are many closes in a pickup: the first close is the name close. Follow basically every one of these openers with 'btw what is your name", or even better "I'm Fiery btw". Using your pickup name can be good too since it starts conversation :).
My Next Post Will be On Some of my Opening Stories.
Ready for a dissertation on opening? here we go. Imma structure this in chronological order of when you do things.
The first thing to consider when opening is the situation. Are you in a mall? a classroom? a party? the street? Consider the question, how often are people opened here? note that you may have to observe for a little while to know the answer. Typically places where girls are constantly opened will require more game, while a little bit of comfort and rapport is all that is necessary for places where girls are rarely opened.
When you start seeing girls, observe them: what are they wearing? Do they appear stuck up? Confident? Shy? Is there anything distinctive that they are wearing that you can comment on. Notice their friends: is the girl the leader of the group a follower, do they appear to be best friends? Just getting to know each other? whatever.
Now just start walking towards them with a couple of openers in your head. Things to note here: make the walk look accidental--do not beeline towards them. Turn to them at the last second. Do not make eye contact until you see them. You are trying to give the vibe that this is a no effort common type of interaction for you and staring/beelining etc. will not achieve this.
Next with open body language i.e. arms wide, shoulders open, and a friendly but not overbearing smile, deliver your opener slowly happily and in carefree way.
WHAT TO SAY:
So you got the body language/mindset now but what do you say? My opinion is that any opener that starts conversation is a perfect opener. You don't build attraction when opening, you do it during midgame.
So try these:
The Fiery Opener (as always)
At college: are you guys freshman? Are any of you in X class? Did you guys go to the cafeteria tonight?/what are they serving? (A standard) Can you give me directions to X.
Or more direct at college: What party you guys going to tonight? You guys wanna come to my pregame twill be a rage? I'm trying to meet new ppl what are your names etc?
On the street:
Can I get directions? Ask about an article of clothing you have: do you think this necklace is sexy? Make up lies: Did you see that crazy guy back there?
Be douchy: Hey gimme a hug I just got a raise at work/i just dumped my bitch girlfriend/etc. Use other people to open them: Say can you tell my friend to get over losing his girlfriend? Say My bud really needs a hug right now btw what are your names.
If you guys want more openers just send me a message.
FIRST GOAL OF THE INTERACTION::::
There are many closes in a pickup: the first close is the name close. Follow basically every one of these openers with 'btw what is your name", or even better "I'm Fiery btw". Using your pickup name can be good too since it starts conversation :).
My Next Post Will be On Some of my Opening Stories.
Subscribe to:
Posts (Atom)